going tubeless

[quietriot447]

i have seen ads in mtb action and other biking mags and i have no idea what it is. has anyone had any expereince. or does any one know what the pros and cons are?

[drtbikrrlives]

Pro's- Supposedly lighter
Con's- after all the sealer and stuff that you have to put in they weigh about the same and fixing a flat is a little tougher.
As I see it stay with the tubes, its easier to fix and is less likely to fail. But if you're a techno-weenie then get them, just don't complain when they **** up on you.
Nick :unitedsta

P.s. Sorry if this seems harsh but my dad's friend got some and all we did was wait for him to fix his flats cause they took about 10-15 min so we had too much waiting and these things have made a bad impression on both of us.

[quietriot447]

how do you change a flat and how do they work in general? is it like that slime stuff?

[crashnscar]

Pros- Lighter, you can run lower air pressure, cant pinch
Cons- If you use the 'do-it-yourself' stuff it's not as good, MIGHT be a pain

Tom, for you...... definitely do not get it

[JTbianchi]

Originally Posted by crashnscar

Pros- Lighter, you can run lower air pressure, cant pinch
definitely do not get it

How do you figure that you can't pich flat?

[crashnscar]

Originally Posted by JTbianchi

How do you figure that you can't pich flat?

There's no tube..... unless you tear a hole right through your tire, you can't

[mattpace]

I have heard both sides say that the other is more likely to get a flat from thorns and such. Dont believe everything you hear, but flats are definitly more of a pain with tubeless.

[JskierPX]

I have run tubeless on my bikes for some time now, all with stans and standard tires. The bottom line is it definately saves weight, and it reduces roling resistance so the tire rolls faster. For slalom run any casing tires but for DH be sure to run Downhill casing tires because if you dont you will def rip or puncture the tire on a rock, I have busted 3 non dh tires on my dh rig and it sux cause the tire is pretty much done after that. Just avoid this by using DH tires for DH! Mounting is easy and so is changing out tires. My advice if you care about the wieght and rolling resistance do it, if not, just stick to tubes.

[El Santo]

Stan's tubeless system is simply bad ass. I have been running stans for a while now on my XC and freeride bikes, and it has held up well. Both bikes have Maxxis DH tires in various flavors (I'll take performance over weight savings any day)-- my XC bike has rhyno lites with rim strips and stans, and my Bullit has mavic UST rims and stans. I run in 25lb psi in the front tires on both bikes, and around 28lb psi in back. I have never flatted, and abuse both bikes regularly. My rims have several flat spots, but still hold the bead with no problems. Last week I pulled a 3 inch nail out of my rear tire- it hissed for a second, and sealed quickly.

I don't reccomend taping your rims if they are non-UST. Definitely go with the rim strips. They are a little more expensive, but they seal well. Screw the weight arguments- fewer flats mean more time riding and enjoying.

My $0.02

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