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Old 05-05-2003, 08:06 PM   #1
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Quick questions for you all:

1) What's considered routine mainenance for a drive train besides cleaning it, lubing it, and tightening cables?

2) How do I maintenance air shocks? or do i even need to worry about them...

3) What else should I worry about fiddling with on a regular basis?

4) Thinking about upgrading to disc brakes....is there any difference btwn mechanical (looking at avid) and hydraulic calipers besides weight and cost?

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Old 05-05-2003, 10:13 PM   #2
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Quick questions for you all:

1) What's considered routine mainenance for a drive train besides cleaning it, lubing it, and tightening cables?

2) How do I maintenance air shocks? or do i even need to worry about them...

3) What else should I worry about fiddling with on a regular basis?

4) Thinking about upgrading to disc brakes....is there any difference btwn mechanical (looking at avid) and hydraulic calipers besides weight and cost?

Thanks

Kenny


First off rountine mantinence for drivetrain is basically lubrication and tightening of stuff, but it is recommended to take everything off the bike once in awhile and degrease it, relube it, and put it back on. Just make sure that after your done degreasing and using water to clean it, that you lub it back up immediately or rust will occur.

Two, mantinence on air shocks i know little about, but what i do know is that they sell kits for mantinence of rear shocks and front forks. But, if you have little expericence messing with bike stuff, it is recommended to hand it off to a bike mechanic professional or your local bike shop to fix the problem.

Three, i usually check my pedals, brakes, stem and handlebar and seat post clamp, and tire pressure before a ride. It is a good habit to get into to check your bike out before every ride so that when your out on the ride , something won't go wrong that you wished you would have caught earlier. Always check brakes and tire pressure though since these are the most important elements, at least in my opinion. Oh yeah, and when you wash your bike after a ride in the mud or whenever always dry it and then re-lube everything so rust will not occur.

Four, disc brakes are a definite ugrade nowadays. The mechanical work good, but if you plan on riding a lot and you ride hard, I recommend going with the hydros. The mechanicals are a good deal for the money, but are more of a recreational brake, or for those who don't ride everyday, etc. There is usually not as much give in mechanicals as well, meaning they stop really quickly and can be very sensitive to brake pump. Weight is not really a big factor with discs, but mantinence is. Hydros require more mantinence, and when they go to shit, they really go to shit. They will cost you a lot more to fix, but in the long run they are more reliable.

So, thats about it. Hmmmm that took me awhile to write, soi hope that helps somewhat. Slug and Mudanoman know a lot about mechanical stuff too, so hit them up with some questions.

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Old 05-05-2003, 10:52 PM   #3
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Here is my 1 cent

1) Keep it clean and lubed. I like dry lube on the pivots and Dumondtech on the chain. It's a bit gunky but it lasts a long time (and I get it for cheap from the shop I used to work at back home).

2) I think just wipe down the thing. Keep the shaft as clean as possible. And if you happen to have a Fox, you can download air sleeve maintenance from their website

3) If you happen to run Speedplay frogs, it's nice to keep em clean and put a little dry lube on the crown. Keep stuff tight but don't tighten each time or you'll kill stuff. But I'm sure you knew that. =) I clean a lot. Oh, if you're running standard cables and housing, maybe squirt a bit of light lube in there once in a while? Check for chain wear (exactly 12" between pins). I like to wipe any dirt away from cartridge bearings (hubs, bb, pivots, headset). Wipe off fork legs.

4) I run an Avid disc in front and an Arch Rival (standard rim brake) in the rear. I like it b/c 1) front gets more power anyway 2) rear hubs are a lot more than front hubs (in terms of swapping to disc compatible) 3) cable is easier on my feeble mind to understand... pull on cable --> stop 4) Avid mech is really easy to set up and adjust 5) None of that super long, housing everywhere stuff 6) No nasty DOT fluid to burst all over you when the dumbass overhauling it forgets to tighten a clamp =)

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Old 05-08-2003, 12:01 AM   #4
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i'm guessing that hydro brakes simulate normal vbrakes in terms of gradual stopping (obviously with more power) and mech brakes just lock after touching the levers?

I'm on a tight budget PLUS i'm lazy as they come and was hoping for quality+low maintenance+inexpensive.
Do you think it'll be a tough transition from vbrakes to mech? Or are hydros a better idea...?

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Old 05-08-2003, 12:51 AM   #5
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I'm surprised no one else has chimed in on this...

Anyway, I didn't have any transition between v and mech's really. I don't really feel like there is much of a modulation problem w/ mech's. I have read that you can mess w/ the housing length to change the "on/off" of mech's. Maybe this is just b/c I've never felt the "incredible modulation" that hydro's have to offer... I dunno...

Also, Supergo has a PAIR of Hayes Mech's for 89.95 if you're on a budget.

Someone else has to have an opinion on this....

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Old 05-08-2003, 04:27 PM   #6
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Been using Hayes Mech brakes for about half a year now. Have not had many problems with them...well then again I dont see too much mud or rain down here in SD :P I guess I can list some Pros and Cons in outline form (and no I did not learn that from college writing...hehehe. inside joke):

Pros and Cons for Mechanical Disc Brakes

Pros:
1. Cheap
2. Easy to setup
3. They brake better than vees

Cons:
1. Modulation, hard not to slide the rear end :roll: . I find it harder to pull manuals/wheelies bc of this...but you eventually find the braking points
2. Maintenance. esp mud and wet conditions.
3. Spend a little more and you can get hydros which will work flawlessly once setup properly.

Final Comment: If you have the extra money get hydros, otherwise the Hayes HMX or Avids are a great choice.

Hope that helps,

mm

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