Hayes El Camino Brakes - Good?

[Raacerx]

I saw the thread below, but Im looking for SPECIFIC information of why you guys dont like or heard people dont like El Caminos. Not just "they suck" or "they are a rip off". When you say that the modulation sucked and Mags were better, are you sure you had them bled and adjusted correctly, as this seems it can be a problem.

I already bought a pair of Juicy 5s, and I know they ride great, but i have a chance to get the El Cos for cheap for my hardtail. Same price as Juicy 5s, so...

[StratGuy]

motomack had them for a while, I suggest PMing him or hopefully he will see this.

[devinci7]

I think the main problem people have had with El Camino's would be the fade on long descents. I guess this won't be a problem though if you're planning to use them on your hardtail. Good luck.

[Rye Bread]

I don't think el caminos are good brakes for downhill. They are more of a XC brake. If you want to run something other than mags for a some reason just go with Juicy 7s, they rock. El Caminos have a tendency to fade and pump up when riding DH.

-Ryan

one of my team mates them and I've ridden his bike, so thats first hand experience. Peter Lucas also has Juicy 7s and one time we did this 7 mile downhill in Utah and his brakes were fine but everyone else's smelled like buring rubber and weren't working.

[Raacerx]

yeah I like Juicys, I already have a pair for my Demo. But i figured it might be nice to jump on a good deal for the brakes. As long as they are powerful, I dont mind fade to much. Most of the 5 mile decents will be handled by the DH bike. This bike is for racing, jumping, moderate trail duty. I like the feel of both the levers, but theres no mistaking the Hayes feel more solid.

I actually wrangled a pair of Caminos to try first, so I guess Ill report back, see if they are worth it.