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Old 05-22-2004, 05:55 PM   #1
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Here it goes again...buy this bike?

So I found another cheap ride on, surprise surprise, Ridemonkey. I'll copy and paste its description, a link to pictures, and the PM the guy sent me. So again, my wise friends, I ask you: Should I buy this bike for this price?

The link:
http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/sho...threadid=85607



The description:
I've got a M/L Cheeta Prowler, complete, for $600 + shipping.

Specs are as follows:

M/L Cheeta Prowler
Marzocchi Jr. T
Avid Disc Brakes F/R
Avid Speed Dial 1.9L levers
On-One Reetard Stem
Azonic Doublewall Risers
Shimano LX Shifter
Race Face LP Cranks
Sun-Ringle Zuzu Pedals
LX BB
Evil SRS Chainguide
Fox Vanilla RC Shock
Deore Rear Derailleur
Front Wheel: 26" Rhyno-Lite XL with XT Hub
Rear Wheel: 24" Doublewide with XT Hub
Front Tire: 2.7 Mobster
Rear Tire: 2.6 Gazzy


So what's the catch? Well the bike does have a couple problems. You'll need to get a new shock pivot bushing (it squeaks), new cranks (the non drive side does not stay tight, the square surface is kind of gouged so it doesn't mate well with the BB), new pedals (one of the pedal axles is bent), and a new chainguide (the Evil doesn't work on this bike).

Now, as mentioned above, the Evil doesn't fit this bike and I learned that the hard way. The chainguide nuts that secure the upper part of the guide protrude out and make contact with the swingarm. Because of this it has dug a nice little notch out of the swingarm as well as having scraped the metal from the round circle to the bottom of the pivot bolt. It's hard to see in the pictures but the notch itself is around 2-3mm deep. I'm no engineer but the wear does not seem to be structural. I've ridden the bike for over a year and have had no problems with the swingarm because of this.

The head of the pivot bolt on the drive side is stripped out and the non drive side is slightly rounded. I have new pivot bolts that I'll include.

Overall the bike is in good condition. The swingarm has some tire rub, the stanctions on the fork are almost perfect, the lowers are scratched. The bike's got cable rub and some scratches, all normal wear. Brand new front tire (one ride) and the rear wheel was just rebuilt.

PM me with any questions or for more pictures.




The PM I got:

I have the new pivot bolts that I'm including with the frame, so that's just a matter of figuring out a way to get the old ones out and then put in the new ones. However, there is nothing wrong with the pivot itself, it's just if you ever wanted to take it apart.

The cranks are just an annoyance. The non-drive side comes loose, but if you carry an allen you can just crank it tight again. If you really wanted to fix that you'd need a new set of square taper cranks.

The shock pivot bushing is around $10-15 and whatever a shop would charge to press it in. Again, it's just an annoyance, as you can hear the slight amount of play in the shock.

You can run the chainguide how it is, it'll still work, although not to it's full potential because it's not in the right position, and if you put it in the right position you'll gouge the frame like I did.

One of the pedal axles is bent as well, so a new set of pedals would probably be good.

Bottom line is no money is needed to get the running. However, if you don't want to have to tighten the cranks every so often or you can't stand the slightly crooked pedal then you're looking at the cost of those.

Let me know if you have any other questions.




Basically, my opinions are as follows: it seems to me the brakes are mechanical, which kind of sucks but maybe I could swap them with my hydraulics on my HT, the fork isn't really big and would probably need to be replaced soon, the cranks would need to be replaced as well as changing the BB to ISIS (but I'm sure RaceFace would help out if the cranks got messed up bad, 'cuz those guys rock and I have shop friends), and the pedals would need to be swapped out (not a bad thing). So the real question is, is it worth the cost?
Thank ye.

Attending UCSC, College Eight. Feel free to come ride with me.

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Old 05-22-2004, 07:31 PM   #2
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nice parts but im not sure. the fork and rear shock are pretty damn nice.
my friend was going to get one also a while back and was stoked. but then he started to research and found out things that he didnt like about them. going out of buisness and cracking in the frame. but a lot of the other ones were good things. so im not sure. since they went out of buisness i wouldnt go for it because if something happens you are going to be screwed and very pissed off. its up to you though. if it was me i would keep looking around for a while. good luck

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Old 05-22-2004, 08:36 PM   #3
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the fork and rear shock are pretty damn nice.
Not really.....


I'd get it if you really want a fully (seems like ya do), even though it's single pivot.
The fork would need to go soon as would the front wheel to get a 20mm. New pedals should prolly be bought right away, which isnt bad because different riders like different pedals.
Other than that, the bike looks pretty solid, just bring the allen with you when you ride for your crank arm (it really isnt that big of a deal, it's happening right now with my V-drives).

Overall, go for it and get new pedals. Immediately start saving for a new front end though

EDIT: Beware of rust.... means bike wasnt taken the best care of (left in rain/not taken care of after wet ride)

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Old 05-22-2004, 09:09 PM   #4
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You could also try using threadlocker or "loctite" on the crank bolts. My XTR's were coming loose alot, so I put some loctite on and the problem was solved.
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Old 05-22-2004, 09:35 PM   #5
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there is a reason cheeta went out of business

My website is pretty lame. Dont click on it.
www.JeffColhoun.com
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Old 05-23-2004, 11:55 AM   #6
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cheeta went out of buisness like superj said and if anything breaks you are fuc*ed. My friend just had to have a buddy weld his swingarm backtogether on his cheeta. Dont do it. Kepp looking
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Old 05-23-2004, 04:13 PM   #7
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part it out man... i'm sure ppl will take some of those parts off of your hands :05:
like i might be interested in the rear brake, bash guard, and crankset maybe
Why would he go through the hassle? Why dont you get it and part it out?
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Old 05-23-2004, 08:52 PM   #8
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I would keep looking if i were you. If the company is out of business and you break something you need a new frame. There are plenty of awsome deals on pink bike, ridemonkey, mtbr, and ebay that you don't need to risk it for this bike.
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Old 05-23-2004, 09:21 PM   #9
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agree i bought a gt dhi race. found a crack on the rear triangle. lets see. hm. the biggest bitch ever to get fixed. back and forth with gt and supergo and w/e! ah it sucked i couldnt ride for a month or so. damn was i a pissed off person and in a bad mood for that month. yeah keep looking tho. you will find better.
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Old 05-24-2004, 06:02 AM   #10
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Why would he go through the hassle? Why dont you get it and part it out?
because do you think i have $600 ?
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Old 05-24-2004, 05:41 PM   #11
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I had a friend that was sponsored by those guys a few years ago. He had full factory free frames everything! He broke so many cheetas but they just kept giving him new ones but he finally screwed it and turned down their free crappy frames. Look at the problems he had when the company was around, imagine how much fun you will be having now when their nowhere to be found! Get it?... NO!... Got it?......Good :deal:

Up at Chico State, theres good riding up here- lots of freeride trails and tech stuff in Bidwell Park,,, but theres also 5 private lakes we can water ski at...
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Old 05-24-2004, 11:02 PM   #12
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Thanks for your help guys. Yeah, I think I'm going to pass on it...it's hard to let such a good deal go, especially considering I have so little money to buy a downhill bike, but what all you brought up were good points. Thanks for your help!!!

EDIT: By the way, if any of you see a DH bike for $750 or so please tell me. I'm not asking you to go out searching, but if you see somethin' good PM me. Thanks!

Attending UCSC, College Eight. Feel free to come ride with me.

Keep it rockin' Hub TV!!
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